Wednesday, June 29, 2016

On JoeMyGod June 29, 2016

Mat Staver Slams Churches That Reacted To Orlando With Kindness: It Was A Homosexual Love Fest

Kyle Mantyla reports at Right Wing Watch:
Staver went on to lament that some churches turned memorial gatherings following the terrorist attack on a gay nightclub in Orlando into a “homosexual love fest.”
“Even in the situation following what happened in Orlando,” he said, “churches got involved and they led in some cases and in other cases they followed and they ultimately allowed that situation, instead of an opportunity to pray, some of them allowed it to be a homosexual love fest. That’s not something that we need to celebrate, this is a tragedy that is against all Americans.”
Co-host Matt Barber then joined in to fault gay-friendly Christians because they are “disobeying Christ, are actually running afoul of God and Jesus in the context of the marriage debate and are siding with the Prince of the World who is trying to redefine marriage.”
“Believe me, this idea of gay marriage didn’t come from God, it didn’t come from Christ,” Barber said, “so who did it come from?”

How disgusting a person do you have to be to even think something like this, much less SAY it?!

And what will our Christian allies say to these two shit bags? What will their rebuttal be to hate now being directed not just to us but to their own who don't measure down to their standards? For god's sake, people, speak up. Your silence sounds like, "Oh, maybe they're right."

Respectfully, can I ask what "speak up" would sound like to you? I mean, I'm not going to get invited on MSNBC like Tony PerKKKins, so if I---or other Episcopalians, for example---want to speak up (or are already doing so), who/how would they hear us? [Full disclosure: I do a heck of a lot of blog commenting *outside* of JMG and the gay intertoobz, generally. Y'know, the kind of places where I get moderated OUT. By Christianists.]

The Truly Religious have decided PA needs a bathroom bill. The PA "Family" Association (our AFA chapter) held a rally Monday...the now-familiar "fears" and "concerns" were expressed by the local usual suspects. The rally received hardly any coverage. What DID get covered was the counter-demonstration by a group of concerned people, some transgender, some not. They were not polite. They were loud. They were noticed and their spokesperson got interviews. The group formed at our LGBT Center and came back to detox. The Center is small, so their meeting area was also where my receptionist desk is, so I got to hear their takes on the day. Some of them were down because of the harassment from the "Family" members, some were angry. But, because although I'm a shy person I also can't help but offer my 2 cents, I reminded them they were a presence, people saw them and heard them, and they made an impression...they couldn't help but make an impression on some of the kids who were dragged there and some of the adults who also were dragged there.
What can our Christian allies do? I don't know and I don't need to have the answer. But the group on Monday reminded me that all politics is local and that you make the news by speaking your piece. If they just showed up at the capitol rotunda, how noticeable would that have been? They decided on a way to get noticed, get coverage, make their point. Visibility, like coming out, is important. Making noise, like coming out, is vital.
Episcopalians, Presbyterians, United Methodists, United Churches of Christ, "good" Lutherans, Unitarian/Universalists and the other mainstream denominations have worked together in the past. There is no denying their importance in the Civil Rights movement. Do they think we are worthy of their efforts?
We're in a nation that's been dumbed down to the point that a traditional approach to getting attention, to speaking on talk shows, to writing comments doesn't work. Again, how do respectable, good Christian allies not just share the attention but gain it and seize it? I hate that our nation's decibel level is so high now, but it seems that wresting attention is what's needed. A critic doesn't rewrite a show s/he doesn't like. We read here all the time that nothing good will happen until the old farts die off and the millennials take over. I'm all for it. I'm nearly 70...I'm tired. The millennials of the mainstream denominations need to convince their old fart leaders that the old farts' ideas aren't working and new ways need to be used, that the denominations need to come together, need to let the "no, WE're right" theology take a back seat to getting together and work to prove "they're not all like that." Sooner rather than later.

To paraphrase Velma in "Chicago," we cannot do it alone.

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